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Can the Government Shut Down Frontier AI Overnight?
• 18 minThe U.S. government reportedly ordered Anthropic to suspend access to two of its newest frontier AI models, Fable 5 and Mythos 5, citing national security concerns tied to a possible jailbreak. Anthropic complied, but pushed back on the reasoning, arguing that the reported behavior was narrow and that similar capabilities already exist in other advanced AI models. In this episode, Tom, Scott, and Kevin discuss why treating AI capabilities like export-controlled technology may create more problems than it solves. The conversation connects today’s AI restrictions to earlier fights over encryption export controls, hacker tools, and government attempts to regulate technical capability by banning access. The bigger concern: defenders may lose access to tools that help them find, fix, and test vulnerable code while attackers simply move to other models or providers. The team also looks at what this means for businesses using cloud-based AI tools. If an AI service can disappear because of a government order, vendor decision, or geopolitical restriction, security and engineering teams need alternatives, back-out plans, and a realistic “ripcord” strategy for mission-critical workflows. Special thanks to Guardsquare for sponsoring this episode! Guardsquare is the leader in mobile application security, with multi-layered protection for your Android and iOS apps. Learn more at Guardsquare.com. ** Links mentioned on the show ** Anthropic statement: Fable/Mythos access https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access Reuters: US blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most advanced AI models https://www.reuters.com/technology/us-blocks-foreign-access-anthropics-most-advanced-ai-models-axios-reports-2026-06-13/ Decrypt: US Government Orders Anthropic to Pull Claude Fable/Mythos AI Models https://decrypt.co/371027/us-government-orders-anthropic-pull-claude-fable-mythos-ai-models Katie Moussouris / Luta Security: The Fable 5 Export Controls Harm US Cyber Defensehttps://www.lutasecurity.com/post/the-fable-5-export-controls-harm-us-cyber-defense ** Watch this episode on YouTube ** https://youtu.be/Y62TlfnVtRg ** Become a Shared Security Supporter ** Get exclusive access to bonus episodes, listen to new episodes before they are released, receive a monthly shout-out on the show, and get a discount code for 15% off merch at the Shared Security store. Become a supporter today by going to our YouTube channel's membership section: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg9CCDIYkDDqwEZ3UYaxjnA/join ** Thank you to our sponsors! ** SLNT Visit slnt.com to check out SLNT's amazing line of Faraday bags and other products built to protect your privacy. As a listener of this podcast you receive 10% off your order at checkout using discount code "sharedsecurity". ** Subscribe and follow the podcast ** Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SharedSecurityPodcast Follow us on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/sharedsecurity.bsky.social Follow us on Mastodon: https://infosec.exchange/@sharedsecurity Join us on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SharedSecurityShow/ Visit our website: https://sharedsecurity.net Subscribe on your favorite podcast app: https://sharedsecurity.net/subscribe Sign-up for our email newsletter to receive updates about the podcast, contest announcements, and special offers from our sponsors: https://shared-security.beehiiv.com/subscribe Leave us a rating and review: https://ratethispodcast.com/sharedsecurity Contact us: https://sharedsecurity.net/contact
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