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Jay Clouse



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[BONUS] Talking about my money story and the MOAT Method on the Danny Miranda Podcast

• 80 min

To continue to celebrate our 100th episode this week, I’m airing a second interview with yours truly this week. This interview came from the Danny Miranda Podcast, where I appeared as a guest just last week. I thought Danny did an excellent job of interviewing and asking questions that I’m not often asked. Since this episode covers a lot of new ground, especially in comparison to my interview earlier this week, I asked Danny if I could share it on my feed as well. And he was kind enough to oblige. In this interview, I talk about how to create unique messaging, my brand new framework for creators which I call the MOAT method, what it was like to work with Pat Flynn, how his voice has actually changed over the years, and much more. Watch this interview on YouTube (0:00) Intro (0:25) How Jay helped his dad plant trees (4:30) Why Jay's 1 year of journalism was his most impactful (6:43) Inverted pyramid (style of writing) (10:55) Turning blog posts into books (14:05) "Lifestyle of an author" (17:13) Timeless principles of creators (The MOAT Method) (22:43) Messaging as a creator (24:47) Working with Pat Flynn (30:02) The highs and lows of being a creator (35:12) Living on $24,000/year (38:00) How does it feel to look back on it? (39:50) Winning a negotiation (41:50) Origin of money story problem (43:20) How to get over the money story? (44:22) Jay's podcast changing his money story (46:54) Jay's silky smooth voice (51:20) Day-to-day energy levels (52:34) Work like a lion (54:23) Repurposing ideas (58:40) Cold emailing (The Rule of One Scroll) (1:03:13) Growth for podcasters and creators (1:11:24) Connecting with Jay Join the Creative Companion Club Subscribe to Creative Companion Follow Jay on Twitter *** SPONSORS View all sponsors and offers *** IF YOU LOVE CREATIVE ELEMENTS Follow Creative Elements on Instagram Subscribe to weekly episode emails Leave me a voicemail Leave a review on Apple Podcasts Leave a rating on Spotify Buy Me A Coffee *** ABOUT JAY CLOUSE Learn more about me Subscribe to Creative Companion Connect with me on Twitter Connect with me on Instagram Join #Tweet100 *** FOR PODCASTERS Enroll in my podcasting workshop Enroll in my course on podcasting, Podcast Like The Pros Learn more about Podpage *** PODGLOMERATE NETWORK This show is a part of the Podglomerate network, a company that produces, distributes, and monetizes podcasts. We encourage you to visit the website and sign up for our newsletter for more information about our shows, launches, and events. For more information on how The Podglomerate treats data, please see our Privacy Policy.  Since you're listening to Creative Elements, we'd like to suggest you also try other Podglomerate shows surrounding entrepreneurship, business, and careers like and Freelance to Founder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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